Naive wannabe gold intermediary from Spain, has sent to us this fake gold offer
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On Mon, Apr 10, 2017 at 12:52:19PM +0000, XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX wrote: > one of them is 30kg gold per month. The gold have Ghana origin, but > it will be deposited in Ámsterdam or London´s bank, if I bring him a > buyer.His terms are 20% TT after the buyer check the gold in the > bank and make his own analize there. 8 days after 80% TT balance. It does not exist, not possible. Even in gold for cash shops anywhere in Amsterdam, more money is paid for gold. Unspoken of London. > I send you here his FCO. We do not read "FCO", as FCO is fraudulent terminology. Nobody in gold trade uses "FCO", the terminology is used exclusively online in the virtual, fantasy world of "gold trade" between the fake dealers and people who believe them. > The second one is from Congo mine. They have 750kg and they could > present that QTY per month, eben more. They will bring the gold to > the buyer´s country by their own spends. Yes, but they will ask for the money in advance, as that is how they make money. The gold is not on picture you have sent in the PDF, anyway, we had this picture before from various other people. You may see it here on this page:
That is not gold, believe me. There are no 2 nuggets in the world that look same to each other. They make this brass nuggets by using brass welding sticks, see pictures here:
> Where is hidden here the scam I don´t know, but I am seek to call me > scammer. Just that confuse me so much. I am not any scammer.... Now, when I am informing you of these matters, you are receiving enough information that you should take it very seriously. You need to learn about the gold. One thing, click here, to see some truly natural nuggets, and you will see their shape, it is not same to each other:
And I am now in Entebbe, Uganda. I have business in Tanzania, believe me that I know East Africa. I know where gold comes from when smuggled, and it never comes in those quantities, impossible. I am talking to geological survey departments, and I know people from chamber of mines and I know true and real mining sites. I know each location in Kenya, Uganda, Tanzania and each region in Congo where gold is mined. Believe me, that EACH offer that you get from Internet will be fake and fraudulent. The reason is very simple, we have here in Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, we have here good gold dealers and refineries. There is largest refinery here in Entebbe:
just review the website they are paying 100% back. In Kenya dealers will pay 97% - 98%, so if these guys would have real gold in Kenya they would sell it without asking you or me. The true gold is never sold by Internet, for the reason that local dealers simply pay cash. That is why no true gold seller need to contact anybody outside of the country. Finally, people who have gold, are not naive or crazy, to risk with people outside, they sell it locally. When I came to Africa in 2012, I was convinced that I need to export gold. That is not true, I can sell locally, and maybe some big companies may export it later. Now, after all the references, that I am giving you, you should not attempt, not even once, to send that offer to somebody else, unless you wish to get opinion if it is true or not. As if you do -- in that case you are making yourself criminally liable. Just one report to the Spanish authorities on money laundering and you would be under their spying agency, and they could raid your apartment, house, and cause you trouble. I am not doing that. But I am warning you, as that is exactly what is happening to people who are attempting fraud and living in Europe. Somebody else may not be so nice to you as I am. > If you are interested ok, if not, just save your opinión for > yourself. In accordance with our terms and conditions, any fake offer sent to our company, may be published, and you accepted terms and conditions when you contacted our company. That we do publish and debunk fake offers, you can see example here:
I do believe you are genuine, yet you need to adjust your reality, there will be no true offer on online websites. I will also publish your offer, without your name, unless you repeat it. And even if you do not send email to me, we are so good connected, that sooner or later we would receive new email from you from some other company we know, or other websites, and in that case, after warning, we need to file police reports. You have attempted to defraud us. The court would be on my side. And you could spend some months in jail or pay the fine in Spain. You have already committed breach of money laundering rules. Let me tell you why, that you learn from that, not that you get fears: 1. If you deal with any gold in Europe, as business, like you represent yourself, first you need some business registered, even if not registered, it does not matter, but you do need to KNOW YOUR CLIENTS. 2. Know Your Clients is a duty of every gold dealer in Europe, and that is due to European Directives. I had 3-4 companies in Europe, and was buying and selling scrap gold, and I had companies in different countries, that is how I know that. 3. What that means? It means you must ask your dealers about their company documents, address, phone, you must see those documents, understand where gold comes from, and ask for their identities, to make sure that they are directors of the company, and that you are dealing with right people. Making sure of documents by Internet is not working, none document can be considered truthful. And you did not go to Kenya, you did not verify anything. 4. I was is in courts on such gold deals. I know what court would tell you, you did not verify anything, but yet you rushed to gain the money by sending offers to people. Which means by knowing and by not knowing of anything about the truth of such deal, you attempted fraud. You wanted money from there. Court could say you knew that the deal is not real. And that is the point where they can say, you go to jail for attempted fraud. > I covered the name of the seller´s Company, because I don´t know you > and my fees must be guaranteed by IMPFA notary and bank legalized > before any direct contact. That it is look like so trivial and > booring, but that is the unique way to forward. Your expectations are way too high. I do not need those names. When somebody is conducting fraud multiple times, repeating it, then I need all the names in order to report to police. Today I was speaking to authorities in Uganda, they know all about the fake nuggets. I would like to propose the real business, where you can earn tens of thousand of euros, but you started on the wrong foot. Maybe you understand this email, and we can move on to some real realistic business? I would send you my proposal, yet I need your engineer's feedback. An engineer is measuring, observing, comparing, verifying, analysing, and making conclusions. So I am asking you to use your engineer's skills to verify your gold sellers. One more fact for you, import duty in all East Africa is 25%, also on gold. Gold is not exempted as you can see on this link:
And you can find more about it here:
Those fake dealers, how did they "import" from Congo to Kenya? Did they smuggle it? Of course it is not real gold, but they must claim either to have it smuggled or to have it imported. And who in the world would import gold when importy duty is 25% and they do not know where and how to sell it? Questions are for you to think about it.
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